Another handling question - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

moose · 2008-06-17, 02:40 PM

How well do anti-Lift kits handle?

sybir · 2008-06-17, 02:52 PM

Better.

Also, easy, as long as you keep all the bits in the bag. It's when you spread all the bits out that it's harder to handle.

(I have an ALK on both of my cars and love it, but it's not legal for any *competitive* autoX classes as far as I'm aware)

sperry · 2008-06-17, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by moose

How well do anti-Lift kits handle?

The biggest benefit seems to come from the stiffer polyurethane bushing than from the static caster added. Turn-in is crisper, but noise/vibration/harshness also goes up a bunch. I wouldn't bother unless you've already done coilovers and swaybars... much more benefit from those, even though the ALK is relatively cheap.

Also, for autocross, the ALK puts you into Prepared. Not Street Prepared, Prepared. If you plan to autocross, look into the Street Touring/Street Prepared legal offset bushings instead of the full blown ALK.

Finally, the ALK can be a bitch to install (more so the offset bushings, as you need a press to do them), and you'll need to re-align the front end when you're done.

Kevin M · 2008-06-17, 03:11 PM

They covered it all.

Plan to autocross? Do the press-in bushings. Care about ride? Don't do them.

moose · 2008-06-17, 03:17 PM

Alright I see.
What front roll center adjustment kit?

sperry · 2008-06-17, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by moose

Alright I see.
What front roll center adjustment kit?

Shouldn't make a difference in NVH, and should help with dynamic camber gain on lowered cars... but if you're not lowered, or just driving on the street, probably a waste of money.

Also, it too will require an alignment.

moose · 2008-06-17, 03:28 PM

The alignment is not my problem. But will it give me a better handling advantage at an autoX on stock springs?

MPREZIV · 2008-06-17, 04:21 PM

Roll Center Adjustment = useless on your car dude.

moose · 2008-06-17, 04:23 PM

alright thanks

M3n2c3 · 2008-06-17, 07:59 PM

some discussion along the same lines here:

http://www.seccs.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5994

wrxkidid · 2008-06-18, 04:03 PM

I would think it would be more beneficial to get some nice springs/struts or some coilovers before you did any rollcenter type stuff but what do i know, I feel like was unfashionably late to this thred.

M3n2c3 · 2008-06-24, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wrxkidid

I would think it would be more beneficial to get some nice springs/struts or some coilovers before you did any rollcenter type stuff but what do i know, I feel like was unfashionably late to this thred.

+1. I love my springs.

van · 2008-06-24, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by moose

The alignment is not my problem. But will it give me a better handling advantage at an autoX on stock springs?

you still have dibs on my setup if I can buy Scotts setup, if we get the same run group this weekend you can check it out

moose · 2008-06-24, 07:08 PM

Alright Sounds good.

2008-06-17, 02:40 PM	#1
moose EJ22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 446 Car: 1998 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Class: getting beat in DSP Pain doesn't affect me, I affect pain.	Another handling question How well do anti-Lift kits handle? __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: 'That guy sure owed me a lot of money!'" Last edited by moose; 2008-06-17 at 02:43 PM.

2008-06-17, 02:52 PM	#2
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Better. Also, easy, as long as you keep all the bits in the bag. It's when you spread all the bits out that it's harder to handle. (I have an ALK on both of my cars and love it, but it's not legal for any competitive autoX classes as far as I'm aware) __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2008-06-17, 03:11 PM	#4
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	They covered it all. Plan to autocross? Do the press-in bushings. Care about ride? Don't do them. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2008-06-17, 03:17 PM	#5
moose EJ22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 446 Car: 1998 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Class: getting beat in DSP Pain doesn't affect me, I affect pain.	Alright I see. What front roll center adjustment kit? __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: 'That guy sure owed me a lot of money!'"

2008-06-17, 03:28 PM	#7
moose EJ22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 446 Car: 1998 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Class: getting beat in DSP Pain doesn't affect me, I affect pain.	The alignment is not my problem. But will it give me a better handling advantage at an autoX on stock springs? __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: 'That guy sure owed me a lot of money!'"

2008-06-17, 04:21 PM	#8
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Roll Center Adjustment = useless on your car dude. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2008-06-17, 04:23 PM	#9
moose EJ22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 446 Car: 1998 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Class: getting beat in DSP Pain doesn't affect me, I affect pain.	alright thanks __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: 'That guy sure owed me a lot of money!'"

2008-06-17, 07:59 PM	#10
M3n2c3 EJ205 Real Name: Jeremiah Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,888 Car: Current: 2014 Forester 2.5i Premium. Old: 2005 Impreza 2.5RS, 2000 Forester L Class: RNP, long ago (see motto) "Kids are ruining autocross."	some discussion along the same lines here: http://www.seccs.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5994 __________________ Small red text that looks curious at first glance but is ultimately inconsequential

2008-06-18, 04:03 PM	#11
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	I would think it would be more beneficial to get some nice springs/struts or some coilovers before you did any rollcenter type stuff but what do i know, I feel like was unfashionably late to this thred. __________________ Mosey down the road.

2008-06-24, 07:08 PM	#14
moose EJ22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 446 Car: 1998 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Class: getting beat in DSP Pain doesn't affect me, I affect pain.	Alright Sounds good. __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: 'That guy sure owed me a lot of money!'"

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