TGV Delete Service - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

GrimmSpeed · 2008-06-25, 10:50 PM

Dont feel like spending $500 for a new set up butterfly-less tgvs or $600 for a JDM Intake Manifold? For less than 1/2 the price you can get the same exact benefits from our TGV Deletes. In this process we take a stock TGV and completely gut it, which includes taking out the metal plate, butterflies, and bar.

These will allow for maximum flow through the TGV. Minimize the engine's heat from entering the TGV's with our ceramic coating. It is very important that heat stays out of the TGV's because this is the last transfer before the intake air enters the engine. Cooler intake air equals more hp.

Customers have seen gains of 15+ whp/wtq. We've also seen third party flowbench tests showing an increase from 330 cfm to 480 cfm!

As far as where the gains occur in the power band, your entire power band is going to see an improvement with our TGV Deletes. On a typical STG 2 setup you are going to realize an increase of 5-10tq/5-8hp in the low end, 10-15tq/8-12hp in the mid range, and 5-10tq/5-8hp at the high end. As you can see in the dyno graph, max gains are going to occur in the mid range.

These will also give you a quicker turbo spool up. If those gains weren't good enough for you, wait till you add a bigger turbo...the bigger the turbo you put on the bigger the gains are going to be from getting the GrimmSpeed TGV Delete.

Yummy!

Thermal Coating!!

Intake Manfiold Side

Head Side

Dyno Graph

This dyno graph was provided to us by one of our customers.

Top Side by Side

Pricing
TGV Delete Service WRX & STi $179.99
Ceramic Thermal Coating $24.99
100% Refundable Core Fee $140

Click below for TGV Deletes on our webpage:
http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/product_...&products_id=35

Any questions please contact us via email, phone, or AIM!

Justin
www.grimmspeed.com
sales@grimmspeed.com
AIM: GrimmSpd
phone:612-481-5731

knucklesplitter · 2008-06-26, 05:41 AM

Hey Justin, I have 2 sets of good side-feed STI TGV cores. The motors, sensors, flaps , and shafts are already removed. PM if you need some.

bign · 2008-07-02, 02:12 PM

was is the downside? I always wonder about things that are 'easy gains'. Why would subaru put them in there if it did nothing?

sybir · 2008-07-02, 02:48 PM

Because TGV's aid idle control. As with many things, drivability trumps power for 95% of the market, even for performance cars.

cody · 2008-07-02, 03:21 PM

I believe the install's a bit of a pain in the butt. This is one of those mods you here people recommend for people that are already rebuilding the motor or something, I think.

Double Phister · 2008-07-02, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sybir

Because TGV's aid idle control. As with many things, drivability trumps power for 95% of the market, even for performance cars.

I thought they were only closed during cold start. I could be wrong.

sperry · 2008-07-02, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R4ND0M_AX3

I thought they were only closed during cold start. I could be wrong.

I'm pretty sure they move around all the time... closed whenever the car is at low rpm to swirl the A/F mix and help emissions.

bign · 2008-07-03, 09:01 AM

ahhh emissions, the arch enemy of power gains

cody · 2008-07-03, 10:17 AM

Hey, as long as high HP cars are still being sold under the EPA's watchful eye, I don't think we can complain.

GrimmSpeed · 2008-07-09, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R4ND0M_AX3

I thought they were only closed during cold start. I could be wrong.

you are right. they are open on start up to aid in tumbling the air/fuel mixture for better emissions(fuel burn).

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

Hey Justin, I have 2 sets of good side-feed STI TGV cores. The motors, sensors, flaps , and shafts are already removed. PM if you need some.

have you pm

Justin

Dewey · 2008-07-14, 09:38 AM

i might be needing a sensor.. i am throwing a cel 1088 is that the sensor or the motor? cause i need whatever that is.

cody · 2008-07-14, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewmudgeon

i might be needing a sensor.. i am throwing a cel 1088 is that the sensor or the motor? cause i need whatever that is.

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17902

knucklesplitter · 2008-07-14, 10:14 AM

Most likely the TGV sensor near the turbo is bad. This one is damaged quite a bit during turbo or uppipe work, and maybe from the heat too.

I have several sensors (tested good) and motors if you end up needing one.

wrxkidid · 2008-07-14, 10:34 AM

That sensor sucks to replace.

Dewey · 2008-07-14, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxkidid

That sensor sucks to replace.

did you have to replace one??? cause i think i borked it by doing my uppipe

wrxkidid · 2008-07-15, 04:38 PM

No i had to replace one on nick lancamps car. It blows nuts. You have to pull the turbo and all that dumb crap to get at it.

I might be willing to help since I have done one but it would cost you cause I dont really have an urge to do it again.

Dewey · 2008-07-16, 12:06 AM

i think im just going to cancel the cel that it is throwing, but if that doesnt fix it, i may need your services

knucklesplitter · 2008-07-16, 02:43 PM

I would delete those m-f'ers before I'd pull the turbo to get at them for repair. Although pulling the intake is not that fun a job either.

100_Percent_Juice · 2008-07-16, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

I would delete those m-f'ers before I'd pull the turbo to get at them for repair. Although pulling the intake is not that fun a job either.

I'm trying to figure out what any of you classify as a "fun" job.

"your gutting the up-pipe? That job sucks balls. You have to replace your turbo inlet hose? Damn that's a bitch. You have to replace a wheel bearing? Well why didn't you say so, when can I come over."

wrxkidid · 2008-07-16, 06:21 PM

Wheel bearings are easy.

moose · 2008-07-16, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxkidid

Wheel bearings are easy.

So is your mom.

GrimmSpeed · 2008-07-17, 06:44 AM

sounds like either CEL delete or TGV Delete time for you sir

wrxkidid · 2008-07-17, 06:33 PM

Do it so you can pay me to do the work so i can get some scrilla!

2008-06-25, 10:50 PM	#1
GrimmSpeed EJ22 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 244	TGV Delete Service Dont feel like spending $500 for a new set up butterfly-less tgvs or $600 for a JDM Intake Manifold? For less than 1/2 the price you can get the same exact benefits from our TGV Deletes. In this process we take a stock TGV and completely gut it, which includes taking out the metal plate, butterflies, and bar. These will allow for maximum flow through the TGV. Minimize the engine's heat from entering the TGV's with our ceramic coating. It is very important that heat stays out of the TGV's because this is the last transfer before the intake air enters the engine. Cooler intake air equals more hp. Customers have seen gains of 15+ whp/wtq. We've also seen third party flowbench tests showing an increase from 330 cfm to 480 cfm! As far as where the gains occur in the power band, your entire power band is going to see an improvement with our TGV Deletes. On a typical STG 2 setup you are going to realize an increase of 5-10tq/5-8hp in the low end, 10-15tq/8-12hp in the mid range, and 5-10tq/5-8hp at the high end. As you can see in the dyno graph, max gains are going to occur in the mid range. These will also give you a quicker turbo spool up. If those gains weren't good enough for you, wait till you add a bigger turbo...the bigger the turbo you put on the bigger the gains are going to be from getting the GrimmSpeed TGV Delete. Yummy! Thermal Coating!! Intake Manfiold Side Head Side Dyno Graph This dyno graph was provided to us by one of our customers. Top Side by Side Pricing TGV Delete Service WRX & STi $179.99 Ceramic Thermal Coating $24.99 100% Refundable Core Fee $140 Click below for TGV Deletes on our webpage: http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/product_...&products_id=35 Any questions please contact us via email, phone, or AIM! Justin www.grimmspeed.com sales@grimmspeed.com AIM: GrimmSpd phone:612-481-5731

2008-07-02, 02:48 PM	#4
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Because TGV's aid idle control. As with many things, drivability trumps power for 95% of the market, even for performance cars. __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2008-07-02, 03:21 PM	#5
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I believe the install's a bit of a pain in the butt. This is one of those mods you here people recommend for people that are already rebuilding the motor or something, I think. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-03, 10:17 AM	#9
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Hey, as long as high HP cars are still being sold under the EPA's watchful eye, I don't think we can complain. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-14, 09:38 AM	#11
Dewey EJ251 Real Name: Chris Dewey Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reno Posts: 520 Car: 98 RSTi Unicorn! Class: Street Modified	i might be needing a sensor.. i am throwing a cel 1088 is that the sensor or the motor? cause i need whatever that is. __________________ Sponsored HEAVILY by BC Tuning.

2008-06-26, 05:41 AM	#2
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	Hey Justin, I have 2 sets of good side-feed STI TGV cores. The motors, sensors, flaps , and shafts are already removed. PM if you need some.

2008-07-02, 02:12 PM	#3
bign EJ22 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SW Reno Posts: 160 Car: 05 sti - 01 GSX-R 750 To learn your limits, you must push past them	was is the downside? I always wonder about things that are 'easy gains'. Why would subaru put them in there if it did nothing?

2008-07-03, 09:01 AM	#8
bign EJ22 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SW Reno Posts: 160 Car: 05 sti - 01 GSX-R 750 To learn your limits, you must push past them	ahhh emissions, the arch enemy of power gains

2008-07-14, 10:14 AM	#13
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	Most likely the TGV sensor near the turbo is bad. This one is damaged quite a bit during turbo or uppipe work, and maybe from the heat too. I have several sensors (tested good) and motors if you end up needing one.

2008-07-14, 10:34 AM	#14
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	That sensor sucks to replace. __________________ Mosey down the road.

2008-07-15, 04:38 PM	#16
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	No i had to replace one on nick lancamps car. It blows nuts. You have to pull the turbo and all that dumb crap to get at it. I might be willing to help since I have done one but it would cost you cause I dont really have an urge to do it again. __________________ Mosey down the road.

2008-07-16, 12:06 AM	#17
Dewey EJ251 Real Name: Chris Dewey Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reno Posts: 520 Car: 98 RSTi Unicorn! Class: Street Modified	i think im just going to cancel the cel that it is throwing, but if that doesnt fix it, i may need your services __________________ Sponsored HEAVILY by BC Tuning.

2008-07-16, 02:43 PM	#18
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	I would delete those m-f'ers before I'd pull the turbo to get at them for repair. Although pulling the intake is not that fun a job either.

2008-07-16, 06:21 PM	#20
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	Wheel bearings are easy. __________________ Mosey down the road.

2008-07-17, 06:44 AM	#22
GrimmSpeed EJ22 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 244	sounds like either CEL delete or TGV Delete time for you sir

2008-07-17, 06:33 PM	#23
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	Do it so you can pay me to do the work so i can get some scrilla! __________________ Mosey down the road.

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