GrimmSpeed 160 Degree Thermostat - Product Release!

[GrimmSpeed]

Link to Product: http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=162

Price: 52.99

First rule of thumb, excess heat kills engines and kills power. GrimmSpeed is on your side with our new 160 Degree Thermostat. Our thermostat will make an immediate and direct impact on your engine running temps. The 160 Degree T-Stat will bring your engine coolant temps down 20-30 Degrees.

Many OEM style T-Stats can have a very negative effect on your vehicle, if they fail, they fail closed and your car will overheat. But not ours! If there is a failure with our T-Stat, it will fail in the OPEN position allowing coolant to flow and keep your engine temps under control.

Given the fact most Subarus are turbo'd, this gives you even more of a reason to want to keep those coolant temps down. In turbo'd applications, the engine coolant must also cool the turbo and the engine oil. This places a greater strain on your oem thermostat...all the more reason to install the GrimmSpeed 160 Degree Thermostat!

During testing, we have also found that our 160 Degree Thermostat keeps the engine coolant at a more stable temperature.


Quick Facts:
20-30 Degree cooler engine coolant temps
Horsepower gains due to the ability to tune more agressively
Less chance of the engine killing detonation
Fails in an OPEN position compared to competitors products

[bigrobwoot]

It sounds good, but $53 good??

[100_Percent_Juice]

$53? Yikes!

[GrimmSpeed]

We feel that $52.99 puts us right in the average price range for aftermarket thermostats. THe peace of mind having a 'fail open' thermostat is alone worth it to me. Not to mention the more agressive tuning you can do.

[cody]

Nevermind.

[Dean]

Group buy price is much better... As low as $45 shipped.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f14/t1125...hermostat.html

[sperry]

What's an OEM t-stat go for? $53 bucks doesn't sound all that bad IMO. It's not like you're replacing t-stats three times a year or something.

[bigrobwoot]

Sperry: OEM goes for $12 and change at subarugenuineparts.com

[sperry]

Originally Posted by bigrobwoot

Sperry: OEM goes for $12 and change at subarugenuineparts.com

I wonder if it's different than the SVX's thermostat... I don't remember it being that cheap when I did the SVX.

Still, when people are spending $10,000 on mods, dropping $50 on the thermostat seems cheap. Kinda like running expensive oil... sure it's expensive compared to the alternatives, but how much is it going to cost for repairs if it fails and takes the motor with it?

[cody]

Does it take longer for the coolant to warm up in the Winter with one of these? Any "downside"?

[GrimmSpeed]

Yeah in extreme cold weather you may not have very warm heat. As long as you are not in one of the extreme temperature states you should be fine.

[100_Percent_Juice]

What constitutes extreme?

[sperry]

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

What constitutes extreme?

Mt. Dew flash floods.

[bigrobwoot]

Originally Posted by sperry

I wonder if it's different than the SVX's thermostat... I don't remember it being that cheap when I did the SVX.

Still, when people are spending $10,000 on mods, dropping $50 on the thermostat seems cheap. Kinda like running expensive oil... sure it's expensive compared to the alternatives, but how much is it going to cost for repairs if it fails and takes the motor with it?

I could understand that, but what about someone with <$2000 into an RS? I just feel like it's something that would be nice to have (like a shortshifter/bushings), but not necessary. And at that price, I think I'd stick with oem on my car. Unless someone wants to try to talk me out of it, I don't claim to always know what's best for my car

[MPREZIV]

Rob, go big or go home.

[bigrobwoot]

That's all I needed to hear cory. Haha.

Grimmspeed, if I buy it on that group buy on rs25, will it get to my house by August 1st? If it will, I'll sign up for it. It should, unless you ship from Lithuania or something. You're shipping them on the 28th for that group buy, right?

[100_Percent_Juice]

Rob.

[GrimmSpeed]

Originally Posted by bigrobwoot

That's all I needed to hear cory. Haha.

Grimmspeed, if I buy it on that group buy on rs25, will it get to my house by August 1st? If it will, I'll sign up for it. It should, unless you ship from Lithuania or something. You're shipping them on the 28th for that group buy, right?

We are located in Minnesota so we can usually get to anywhere in the country via USPS in a few days. The last day is the 28th(until midnight) so we will be shipping 29th. We could probably make arrangements for you to get it shipped earlier if you are in dire need.

Justin

[bigrobwoot]

I'll be installing cams that weekend, and also replacing my thermostat and coolant. I wouldn't want to waste coolant the next weekend to install a new thermostat, so that would be appreciated. We can take this to pm if you don't wanna keep littering your thread with this otherwise, I should be posting in the group buy thread soon under the same sn

Juice: why facepalm? Is it that bad that I can't make my own decisions related to my car? Haha

[GrimmSpeed]

Originally Posted by bigrobwoot

I'll be installing cams that weekend, and also replacing my thermostat and coolant. I wouldn't want to waste coolant the next weekend to install a new thermostat, so that would be appreciated. We can take this to pm if you don't wanna keep littering your thread with this otherwise, I should be posting in the group buy thread soon under the same sn

Juice: why facepalm? Is it that bad that I can't make my own decisions related to my car? Haha

yeah we can work something out...post up in the GB thread. they only need one more person to hit the lowest price tier anyways then we can start shipping..you would be that person so we could ship monday.

[100_Percent_Juice]

It says you only have 9 people in there. The lowest price tier needs 21+. Right?

[GrimmSpeed]

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

It says you only have 9 people in there. The lowest price tier needs 21+. Right?

oh yes...my bad. nasioc is at 21.

Justin

[bigrobwoot]

I might have changed my mind, actually. According to someone in that rs25 thread, the stock one is rated at 172, so yours only offers a 12 degree drop over stock for quadruple the price. It'd probably be good if I were turbo'd, but NA I don't see it making much of a difference

[cody]

That graph in the OP is very compelling though. It shows an average temp drop of "20-30 Degree cooler engine coolant temps" under, what I'm assuming, is aggressive use. However, you're right that it's probably less of an issue in a non-turbo car since the coolant is only cooling the motor, not the motor and the turbo.

But I wouldn't buy one until I saw the needle rise above where it normally is. Once that needle starts to climb from where it normally is under harsh conditions, it tells me that it's time to improve the efficiency of the cooling system. Yes, I know the stock coolant temp. gauge is "a joke" but I believe that it would show any significant rise in coolant temps.

[GrimmSpeed]

Originally Posted by bigrobwoot

I might have changed my mind, actually. According to someone in that rs25 thread, the stock one is rated at 172, so yours only offers a 12 degree drop over stock for quadruple the price. It'd probably be good if I were turbo'd, but NA I don't see it making much of a difference

172 is not the operationg temp of the OEM, the operating temp is up near 190 or so. Please the testing graph above. Also ours maintains a more staple temperature and also fails in the open position(oem fails closed).

Justin