mike A Houl - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

IheartSTI · 2004-06-16, 02:09 PM

So i bought my STI from the carson Houl deler and then said they where going to be seding a paper for a 5% intrest rate to sign, so the guy comes to my dads work and it says 9.6% intrest rate. so my dad calls the dealer and asked them whats going on and they sadi we did not get approved for 5% so my dad got the number to the loan place and they said they approved it for 5%, so my dad called back the dealer and they tried to play it off so they said they would take 3000$ off the price of the car. We where happy and today they bring by the deal to my dads work and it was back to 9.6% so my dad calls the loan place agian before contacting Mike AHOLE and they said it was still 5% so my dad called the dealer and got hella pissed and they where saying sorry and shit, but my dad was hella pissed and called his loyor(sp) and he said they should be able to get the car for free now. so we will c what happends.....Never go to mike AssHoul in carson

dknv · 2004-06-16, 02:16 PM

So I get the impression you want us to know the dealership didn't handle your deal very well.
Sounds like a pretty squirmy way to do business...

sperry · 2004-06-16, 02:21 PM

Hell, if you can get the car for free (which I doubt will happen) I'd go to Carson this afternoon for my free STi!

ArthurS · 2004-06-16, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Hell, if you can get the car for free (which I doubt will happen) I'd go to Carson this afternoon for my free STi!

sperry · 2004-06-16, 02:27 PM

BTW: it's "Michael Hohl Honda/Subaru of Carson City"

"Mike Houl" looks like a Hawaiian Subaru dealer.

dknv · 2004-06-16, 02:34 PM

oh, I thought it was clever to disguise the name like that, that way a general google search won't bring up this thread .... :wink:

sperry · 2004-06-16, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dknv

oh, I thought it was clever to disguise the name like that, that way a general google search won't bring up this thread .... :wink:

Google searches will never find a thread on our board, we're not set up to allow search engines to parse/archive our content.

MikeSTI · 2004-06-16, 02:40 PM

I told your dad about this scam last meet where the dealers get kick backs for signing people up for over interest rates. If the dealer can get you a 5% interest rate but gets you to sign the 9% interest quote then the loan officer gets the defference. Its a slimmy world we live in and your still better off getting the loan on your own and paying cash for your purchase. Might want to have the lender write your father the check and then pay cash at the dealership and take your 5% straight from the lender. Its not worth the hassel to deal with these people they lie, cheat, and steal for a living.............

Sorry to hear the experience isnt going so well but its deffinatlly not worth the fight. Tell your dad just because the layer thinks he can get the car for free its still not the right thing to do. It will cost something in the end and will make you no different.

Just dont return the business for the next one

IheartSTI · 2004-06-16, 02:41 PM

there ass holes. if it does not work out we will go to reno and see what they got, i am going to go check out an evo to(dont worry not buying one) i just want to check out the evo rs thats going to be in reno.

dknv · 2004-06-16, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Google searches will never find a thread on our board, we're not set up to allow search engines to parse/archive our content.

Good to know!

Sam, if you go to Reno Lithia, let us know first. We know some of the guys there, and will refer you directly to them to hopefully bypass any newbie salespeople. But if you look at or even buy an Evo instead - that is cool too. Nice car!

sperry · 2004-06-16, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobanader

there ass holes. if it does not work out we will go to reno and see what they got, i am going to go check out an evo to(dont worry not buying one) i just want to check out the evo rs thats going to be in reno.

Just get the 5% and the $3000 off and be happy... that sounds like a pretty good deal.

IheartSTI · 2004-06-16, 03:32 PM

they just gave my dad a new deal so he is going to look at it right now and we know we got the 3000 off no matter what. hopefully everthing works out

LetItRev · 2004-06-16, 03:47 PM

I like the way the name of the dealer got closer to asshole the more the post progressed!

LetItRev · 2004-06-16, 03:56 PM

Lately, I have been hearing that people are paying WAYYYYYYYY to much for their STI's. (Not necessarily in this case). Are people not doing their homework on KBB.COM or other like sites?

When I first shopped for my WRX, Summer of 2003, the Reno dealer salesdroid said they would not go a dime under the price on the window, which included about $3,000.00 in dealer markup. I laughed, realized I didn't really "need" the car at the time and left. I didn't want to pursue it at that time.

I have taught car buying in a Consumer math class and have learned a great deal about all the inner workings of car sales. (It appears that many members here know of all of this stuff).

When I bought mine, i paid invoice plus about $100.00, and they took my trade in and gave me what I wanted for it. (I didn't want to sell it locally or to a friend, ask me why in person if you want the details).

I called, asked for the sales manager, stated what I wanted and what I wanted to pay for it, secured the deal, payed cash (had my own financing), then mentioned trade in and drove the car home.

I understand the some people may want the 2005 model "TODAY" and thus may have to pay a premium to get it. For my money, I would wait until the price dropped to near invoice, like they always seem to do on Subarus.

Sorry if I got off on a tangent here.

Franz

IheartSTI · 2004-06-16, 03:56 PM

this is realy random......I LOVE driving my car. it was the most fun out at the autocross though

IheartSTI · 2004-06-16, 04:17 PM

we paid 32,900, and they said they where giving us 3 grand off for the bad service which brings it down to 29,900. if anyone can get a 05 sti with no miles for a cheaper price then that let me know

MikeSTI · 2004-06-16, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobanader

we paid 32,900, and they said they where giving us 3 grand off for the bad service which brings it down to 29,900. if anyone can get a 05 sti with no miles for a cheaper price then that let me know

the dealer

thats about it

Gorio · 2004-06-17, 06:51 AM

There are some good tips on car buying at this site:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/

JC · 2004-06-17, 12:51 PM

Michael Hohl sucks. They've sucked in most every dealing I've had with them. Their service dept. sucks worse than their sales dept. The only good experience I had was that I got some WRX take-offs w/ tires for $200 about two years ago.

JC

ArthurS · 2004-06-17, 01:04 PM

Weird...I have always liked them much better then lithia. I went to get my door handle fixed (which they fixed) and mentioned a clunking inbetween shifts. They found the problem, fixed it, and even gave me a free tranny service.

2004-06-16, 02:09 PM	#1
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	mike A Houl So i bought my STI from the carson Houl deler and then said they where going to be seding a paper for a 5% intrest rate to sign, so the guy comes to my dads work and it says 9.6% intrest rate. so my dad calls the dealer and asked them whats going on and they sadi we did not get approved for 5% so my dad got the number to the loan place and they said they approved it for 5%, so my dad called back the dealer and they tried to play it off so they said they would take 3000$ off the price of the car. We where happy and today they bring by the deal to my dads work and it was back to 9.6% so my dad calls the loan place agian before contacting Mike AHOLE and they said it was still 5% so my dad called the dealer and got hella pissed and they where saying sorry and shit, but my dad was hella pissed and called his loyor(sp) and he said they should be able to get the car for free now. so we will c what happends.....Never go to mike AssHoul in carson

2004-06-16, 02:21 PM	#3
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Hell, if you can get the car for free (which I doubt will happen) I'd go to Carson this afternoon for my free STi! __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-06-16, 02:27 PM	#5
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	BTW: it's "Michael Hohl Honda/Subaru of Carson City" "Mike Houl" looks like a Hawaiian Subaru dealer. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-06-16, 02:40 PM	#8
MikeSTI EJ205 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,354 Car: 2004 STi Class: TSM I can't complain	I told your dad about this scam last meet where the dealers get kick backs for signing people up for over interest rates. If the dealer can get you a 5% interest rate but gets you to sign the 9% interest quote then the loan officer gets the defference. Its a slimmy world we live in and your still better off getting the loan on your own and paying cash for your purchase. Might want to have the lender write your father the check and then pay cash at the dealership and take your 5% straight from the lender. Its not worth the hassel to deal with these people they lie, cheat, and steal for a living............. Sorry to hear the experience isnt going so well but its deffinatlly not worth the fight. Tell your dad just because the layer thinks he can get the car for free its still not the right thing to do. It will cost something in the end and will make you no different. Just dont return the business for the next one __________________ Cobb Stage 2

2004-06-17, 12:51 PM	#19
JC Ask me about dubs! Real Name: JC Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 2,895 Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R	Michael Hohl sucks. They've sucked in most every dealing I've had with them. Their service dept. sucks worse than their sales dept. The only good experience I had was that I got some WRX take-offs w/ tires for $200 about two years ago. JC __________________ Actually, I am a rocket scientist.

2004-06-16, 02:16 PM	#2
dknv EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 39n53, 119w90 Posts: 2,698 Car: RX-8 Class: CS maybe	So I get the impression you want us to know the dealership didn't handle your deal very well. Sounds like a pretty squirmy way to do business...

2004-06-16, 02:34 PM	#6
dknv EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 39n53, 119w90 Posts: 2,698 Car: RX-8 Class: CS maybe	oh, I thought it was clever to disguise the name like that, that way a general google search won't bring up this thread .... :wink:

2004-06-16, 02:41 PM	#9
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	there ass holes. if it does not work out we will go to reno and see what they got, i am going to go check out an evo to(dont worry not buying one) i just want to check out the evo rs thats going to be in reno.

2004-06-16, 03:32 PM	#12
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	they just gave my dad a new deal so he is going to look at it right now and we know we got the 3000 off no matter what. hopefully everthing works out

2004-06-16, 03:47 PM	#13
LetItRev R.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 501 Car: 2004 WRX	I like the way the name of the dealer got closer to asshole the more the post progressed!

2004-06-16, 03:56 PM	#14
LetItRev R.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 501 Car: 2004 WRX	Lately, I have been hearing that people are paying WAYYYYYYYY to much for their STI's. (Not necessarily in this case). Are people not doing their homework on KBB.COM or other like sites? When I first shopped for my WRX, Summer of 2003, the Reno dealer salesdroid said they would not go a dime under the price on the window, which included about $3,000.00 in dealer markup. I laughed, realized I didn't really "need" the car at the time and left. I didn't want to pursue it at that time. I have taught car buying in a Consumer math class and have learned a great deal about all the inner workings of car sales. (It appears that many members here know of all of this stuff). When I bought mine, i paid invoice plus about $100.00, and they took my trade in and gave me what I wanted for it. (I didn't want to sell it locally or to a friend, ask me why in person if you want the details). I called, asked for the sales manager, stated what I wanted and what I wanted to pay for it, secured the deal, payed cash (had my own financing), then mentioned trade in and drove the car home. I understand the some people may want the 2005 model "TODAY" and thus may have to pay a premium to get it. For my money, I would wait until the price dropped to near invoice, like they always seem to do on Subarus. Sorry if I got off on a tangent here. Franz

2004-06-16, 04:17 PM	#16
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	we paid 32,900, and they said they where giving us 3 grand off for the bad service which brings it down to 29,900. if anyone can get a 05 sti with no miles for a cheaper price then that let me know

2004-06-17, 06:51 AM	#18
Gorio EJ22 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 123	There are some good tips on car buying at this site: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/

2004-06-17, 01:04 PM	#20
ArthurS EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,707 Car: 2011 Chevy Battle Wagon	Weird...I have always liked them much better then lithia. I went to get my door handle fixed (which they fixed) and mentioned a clunking inbetween shifts. They found the problem, fixed it, and even gave me a free tranny service. __________________ Captain Murphy: I dub thee Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, beater of ass. Be a hitter, babe.

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