spoiler question - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

IheartSTI · 2004-08-13, 12:41 AM

my buddy has a merkur XR4TI and he was wondering what spoiler would work the most efectively. it is a rear wheel drive car with a ton of pony's. needs some dowforce. he was looking at the carbon fiber C-WEST spoiler. let me know!

Dean · 2004-08-13, 07:27 AM

If he wants real downforce, he should go with something the real racers are running.

Gary was running a SPI Motorsports GT Rear Wing

Assuming it is an American car of some form, he may want to go with an actual spoiler that comes off the trailing edge of the trunk lid (a la NASCAR) instead of a wing.

AtomicLabMonkey might have some good ideas on how to keep the rear end of some American Iron on the ground.

MattR · 2004-08-13, 07:30 AM

The XR4Ti is one of my favorite cars...Those things used to Dominate SCCA Trans AM back in the late 80's early 90's

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-08-13, 07:38 AM

Spoilers & wings can work on any type of car and each have their advantages and disadvantages.

sperry · 2004-08-13, 08:45 AM

I thought those XR4TI's already had *two* spoilers on 'em from the factory... I guess you could call it the turbo STrIce version of the Escort.

MattR · 2004-08-13, 09:06 AM

That's nice, but check out this version and tell me its a ricey escort...

sperry · 2004-08-13, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR

That's nice, but check out this version and tell me its a ricey escort...

That's about as much an XR4TI as this is a Taurus:

[img:67bc6cf9fe=600]http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/automobilismo/nascar/taurus-busch-biffle-1g.jpg[/img:67bc6cf9fe]

IheartSTI · 2004-08-13, 09:41 AM

yea my friends is hella dope. he just put a t3-t4 50 trim exhaust maifold wastegate throttle body fmic and some other cool shit. he is about to wide body it

it is a dope car

sperry · 2004-08-13, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobanader

yea my friends is hella dope. he just put a t3-t4 50 trim exhaust maifold wastegate throttle body fmic and some other cool shit. he is about to wide body it

it is a dope car

That sounds like a pretty badass car! Very unique, at least here in the States.

IheartSTI · 2004-08-13, 10:09 AM

acually it is a ricey cosworth......

sperry · 2004-08-13, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobanader

acually it is a ricey cosworth......

Que? Cosworth is a tuning company that tunes Fords in England/Europe, much like Steeda or Saleen here in the US. I don't believe there was ever a "Ford Cosworth". That's like saying I've got a "Ford SVT", or a "Honda Mugen".

As far as street car stuff, they primarily do motor work on Ford 4-bangers, like the Fiesta, Escort, Focus, and in the past, the Ford Sierra (aka the XR4TI here in the US IIRC).

Cosworth's racing program produced some awesome F1 motors back in the day as well.

Ford now owns Cosworth, and uses them as their motor development program for European racing. They're also Ford's European equivalent to the SVT group here in the States.

Cosworth has tuned some sick ass Fords over the years:

Escort RS MkV:

Cosworth Escort (concept based on the rally car):

Cosworth Sierra:

Cosworth Fiesta ST Concept:

Cosworth Focus RS Concept:

It's a real shame we don't get these cars here in America.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-08-13, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

It's a real shame we don't get these cars here in America.

Tell me about it. I want one of the Falcon GTs that Ford makes in Australia... that thing is awesome.

388hp with a well designed/tuned suspension, great brakes & 4 doors to boot? Yes please - I'll take that over just about anything else as my daily driver.

sperry · 2004-08-13, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

It's a real shame we don't get these cars here in America.

Tell me about it. I want one of the Falcon GTs that Ford makes in Australia... that thing is awesome.

388hp with a well designed/tuned suspension, great brakes & 4 doors to boot? Yes please - I'll take that over just about anything else as my daily driver.

Hmm... subtract 88hp and add AWD and you've got an STi....

MattR · 2004-08-13, 01:50 PM

I wish Fords in the states looked and performed like that. falcons are hot...they're from the streets

sperry · 2004-08-13, 01:53 PM

So, uhh.... anyone want an XR4TI spoiler?

MattR · 2004-08-13, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

So, uhh.... anyone want an XR4TI spoiler?

OMFG

You stollded my joke.

MattR · 2004-08-13, 02:25 PM

I'm gonna rice out my car with a combo WRX-R4Ti badge...that will be hot.

IheartSTI · 2004-08-13, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobanader

acually it is a ricey cosworth......

Que? Cosworth is a tuning company that tunes Fords in England/Europe, much like Steeda or Saleen here in the US. I don't believe there was ever a "Ford Cosworth". That's like saying I've got a "Ford SVT", or a "Honda Mugen".

As far as street car stuff, they primarily do motor work on Ford 4-bangers, like the Fiesta, Escort, Focus, and in the past, the Ford Sierra (aka the XR4TI here in the US IIRC).

Cosworth's racing program produced some awesome F1 motors back in the day as well.

Ford now owns Cosworth, and uses them as their motor development program for European racing. They're also Ford's European equivalent to the SVT group here in the States.

Cosworth has tuned some sick ass Fords over the years:

Escort RS MkV:

Cosworth Escort (concept based on the rally car):

Cosworth Sierra:

Cosworth Fiesta ST Concept:

Cosworth Focus RS Concept:

cosworth designed the xr4ti, and murker is a branch off ford

It's a real shame we don't get these cars here in America.

2004-08-13, 12:41 AM	#1
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	spoiler question my buddy has a merkur XR4TI and he was wondering what spoiler would work the most efectively. it is a rear wheel drive car with a ton of pony's. needs some dowforce. he was looking at the carbon fiber C-WEST spoiler. let me know!

2004-08-13, 07:27 AM	#2
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	If he wants real downforce, he should go with something the real racers are running. Gary was running a SPI Motorsports GT Rear Wing Assuming it is an American car of some form, he may want to go with an actual spoiler that comes off the trailing edge of the trunk lid (a la NASCAR) instead of a wing. AtomicLabMonkey might have some good ideas on how to keep the rear end of some American Iron on the ground. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-08-13, 07:30 AM	#3
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	The XR4Ti is one of my favorite cars...Those things used to Dominate SCCA Trans AM back in the late 80's early 90's __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-08-13, 07:38 AM	#4
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Spoilers & wings can work on any type of car and each have their advantages and disadvantages. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2004-08-13, 08:45 AM	#5
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I thought those XR4TI's already had two spoilers on 'em from the factory... I guess you could call it the turbo STrIce version of the Escort. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-08-13, 09:06 AM	#6
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	That's nice, but check out this version and tell me its a ricey escort... Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-08-13, 09:41 AM	#8
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	yea my friends is hella dope. he just put a t3-t4 50 trim exhaust maifold wastegate throttle body fmic and some other cool shit. he is about to wide body it it is a dope car

2004-08-13, 10:09 AM	#10
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	acually it is a ricey cosworth......

2004-08-13, 01:50 PM	#14
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I wish Fords in the states looked and performed like that. falcons are hot...they're from the streets __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-08-13, 01:53 PM	#15
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	So, uhh.... anyone want an XR4TI spoiler? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-08-13, 02:25 PM	#17
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I'm gonna rice out my car with a combo WRX-R4Ti badge...that will be hot. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

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