Russian airshow crash vid - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

AtomicLabMonkey · 2006-03-29, 06:24 AM

http://brown-snout.com/aviation/vide...rashinlviv.wmv

This is pretty gnarly... it's got camcorder footage from just a couple hundred feet away from the point of impact, crazy stuff. I know there have been several big Russian fighter crashes at airshows, but I had never seen this particular one before.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-03-29, 08:10 AM

I've seen that before, but never from so many angles. That's intense.

sti deede · 2006-03-29, 08:10 AM

wow.

dknv · 2006-03-29, 08:11 AM

Good Lord, what a gross mistake.

Double Phister · 2006-03-29, 09:53 AM

That's crazy. How do you say "Are you asking too much" in dead russian?

sperry · 2006-03-29, 10:10 AM

So, what's the deal w/ all the Su-27 airshow crashes?

The plane is supposed to be insanely capable... are the pilots just such cowboys that they take unnecessary risks at low altitude all the time, and eventually get caught w/o enough altitude? Is there a flaw in the plane that it stalls out unexpectedly on occation (it seems like just about all the wrecks are low speed manuvers)? Are the pilots just not trained enough that they try a split-S at 1000AGL?

All I know is that pilot's last words were:

"I got this bitch... NYET!!"

JonnydaJibba · 2006-03-29, 10:31 AM

Maybe the pilots put too much faith in the handling capabilities of the plane they are flying? They just think it can do everything they want (and it can, in most circumstances) and then when it can't it's too late? Hummmm...

MattR · 2006-03-29, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

"I got this bitch... NYET!!"

It's good to see my infamous phrase getting used by other dumb-asses worldwide

AtomicLabMonkey · 2006-03-29, 11:21 AM

There were several dozen people killed from that crash too.. it went straight into the crowd. From what I read there were several factors that contributed, including:

Manuevers were not performed properly (it looks like he came out of his loop at too low an altitude) - pilot error
Aircraft was overladen with fuel - again pretty much pilot error since he didn't adjust his manuevers in accordance with the fuel load onboard
Improper flight plan
Failure to stay outside of crowd zones during manuevering

In the second camera angle you can see that once he rolls out of the loop he is totally fucked, and knows it too. You can see the vapor coming off the top of the plane because he is pulling as hard as he can but it's too late at that point. He lost way too much altitude during the roll.

ScottyS · 2006-03-29, 01:33 PM

Wow. Pilot error big time. Couldn't tell if he was on the throttle once the stall was initiated...

At counter time 1:11-1:13 you can see a chute in the air. I wonder if the crowd let him live.

2006-03-29, 06:24 AM	#1
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Russian airshow crash vid http://brown-snout.com/aviation/vide...rashinlviv.wmv This is pretty gnarly... it's got camcorder footage from just a couple hundred feet away from the point of impact, crazy stuff. I know there have been several big Russian fighter crashes at airshows, but I had never seen this particular one before. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2006-03-29, 08:10 AM	#2
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	I've seen that before, but never from so many angles. That's intense. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-03-29, 09:53 AM	#5
Double Phister EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 450 Car: 2005 WRX STi "I'm sideways and in control... I look good."	That's crazy. How do you say "Are you asking too much" in dead russian? __________________ Dan - '05 Black WRX STi. My Mods

2006-03-29, 10:10 AM	#6
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	So, what's the deal w/ all the Su-27 airshow crashes? The plane is supposed to be insanely capable... are the pilots just such cowboys that they take unnecessary risks at low altitude all the time, and eventually get caught w/o enough altitude? Is there a flaw in the plane that it stalls out unexpectedly on occation (it seems like just about all the wrecks are low speed manuvers)? Are the pilots just not trained enough that they try a split-S at 1000AGL? All I know is that pilot's last words were: "I got this bitch... NYET!!" __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-03-29, 10:31 AM	#7
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Maybe the pilots put too much faith in the handling capabilities of the plane they are flying? They just think it can do everything they want (and it can, in most circumstances) and then when it can't it's too late? Hummmm... __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-03-29, 08:10 AM	#3
sti deede EJ205 Real Name: Deede Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,789 Car: '96 4runner Class: none.	wow.

2006-03-29, 08:11 AM	#4
dknv EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 39n53, 119w90 Posts: 2,698 Car: RX-8 Class: CS maybe	Good Lord, what a gross mistake.

2006-03-29, 11:21 AM	#9
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	There were several dozen people killed from that crash too.. it went straight into the crowd. From what I read there were several factors that contributed, including: Manuevers were not performed properly (it looks like he came out of his loop at too low an altitude) - pilot error Aircraft was overladen with fuel - again pretty much pilot error since he didn't adjust his manuevers in accordance with the fuel load onboard Improper flight plan Failure to stay outside of crowd zones during manuevering In the second camera angle you can see that once he rolls out of the loop he is totally fucked, and knows it too. You can see the vapor coming off the top of the plane because he is pulling as hard as he can but it's too late at that point. He lost way too much altitude during the roll. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2006-03-29, 01:33 PM	#10
ScottyS EJ205 Real Name: It is real! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RNO Posts: 2,367 Car: 1998 Impreza Wagon, 1991 Legacy Turbo Sedan, 2003 Nissan Xterra Class: tvFree Yes, I'll fix it for you. Again.	Wow. Pilot error big time. Couldn't tell if he was on the throttle once the stall was initiated... At counter time 1:11-1:13 you can see a chute in the air. I wonder if the crowd let him live. __________________ "Trend Number One is that people aren't getting any smarter." Dogbert