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Old 2009-09-14, 07:04 PM   #1
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So today I found out that I have to get my Sti springs and struts off my car and go back to the stock wrx ones.. which i dont want.. So I want coilovers and I wanna order them tomorrow. I have about $1300 at my disposal.. Help me out. I dont know much about suspension..

I can find stuff for my price range. But I dont know what's worth my money and what's not..

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Try searching "coilover".

Then save up $300 more and go get some Tein Flexs.
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Try searching "coilover".

Then save up $300 more and go get some Tein Flexs.
Or buy some used ones for even less.
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What would be the ideal spring rate for street IYO?
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Or pick up a set of the KW Variant 1's like I did. I like them a lot, but keep in mind that I have nothing to compare them to, except stock WRX springs and then STi takeoffs.

I got mine from Oakos, I had them within 4 days of ordering...
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What would be the ideal spring rate for street IYO?
Stock or 42, one of those...

Seriously, what is "street"? Some people think the stock ride is too stiff, others think it is too soft for "the street".

Suspension tuning is not just about spring rates, it is about a balanced package that meets the wants/needs of the driver.

If you like a car's ride, but want it to corner flatter, sway bars can help that with minimal effect on highway ride quality.
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Old 2009-09-15, 08:12 AM   #7
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I guess I should ask a different question. At what spring rate will my wife refuse to ride in my car?

My wants/needs are to drop my car lower while improving performance just enough to not kill my back driving around all day in NV. 99.99993% daily driving.
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We have now derailed Austin's thread, but what else is new...

Will she ride in it now?

If your struts are good, pick up a used set of any number of well reviewed lowering springs first.

That may be all you need. Be aware that snow clearance can become an issue with your snow plow.

Sways might be a second step. Only after those would I suggest coils for what you describe as wants/needs.
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I already have a front sway. Yes, she rides in it now with no (suspension)complains. The "snow plow" will probably be forced to come off once the car is lowered anyways. Too low for Reno. If Austin didn't want his thread to get derailed he would have said so.
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Yeah Reno is not nice to lowered cars. My car isn't slammed but I think it's fairly low and I have to be very careful driving around town (downtown especially).
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I guess I should ask a different question. At what spring rate will my wife refuse to ride in my car?
My advice, based on my own (subjective) experience, is don't go any stiffer than the stock STi setup if this is going to be a daily driver.

My coilovers have 9k/8k springs and although I didn't think it was too bad when they first went on, by the time a year had gone by I wanted to set the car on fire. I ended up buying another car just to avoid driving the STi every day. Now that I hardly drive it anymore, when I do drive it, it doesn't seem too bad again.

Unless the only factor is autocross and track events, I would rather have suspension that was too soft than too stiff.
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^That is what I was looking for.
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I daily drive on Koni inserts and Crucial Racing springs. It's real nice and the girlfriend says she doesn't think it's too stiff.













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I know you didn't ask, but I should be at the meet on Thursday, so if Juice or Gus want to know what the KW Variant 1's feel like on the street just let me know. The spring rates are designed to be a good balance for for the street and still balanced enough for track duty.
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I'll be at the meet.
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I wish I was going to be there. I will be in LA with my wife for our 5 year anniversary.
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Oh no, I didnt mind it getting derailed. All of this is good info for me. Keep going! And I'll try and be at the meet. If I do come, it'll be a little later around 7 or so. I'm thinking of BC coilovers. I've heard lots of good things about them. Actually to think of it.. I havent read a bad review yet. And Josh at Importimageracing.com recommended them for being on my DD, but still wanting to have fun on mountain roads. Also he said say bars. but that'll have to come next month or so. I'm hoping to order the coilovers tomorrow...err. I mean today.
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Try searching "coilover".

Then save up $300 more and go get some Tein Flexs.
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. The word "Tein" has that weird effect on me...
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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. The word "Tein" has that weird effect on me...
I would too if I got beat by people with them...


I like my Flex's, might be a little stiff for some people daily driving, but doesn't bother me as my commute to work is only 3 miles. I am going to try to make some meets soon if someone wants a ride, or come out to Auto-x.
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Say what you want about my Teins... the numbers speak for themselves!

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Say what you want about my Teins... the numbers speak for themselves!

http://www.renoscca.org/results/solo...Standings.html



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I set top PAX in Eric's STI on Tein Flexs a few season back. And set the fastest lap of the weekend at the NORPAC Divisional Championship time trials event on my car w/ Tein SuperRace coilovers.
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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. The word "Tein" has that weird effect on me...
Yeah, idk how I feel about Tein, I know incidents of the sort are few and far between, but it's a little disconcerting...

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That just shows they are easy to clean with the detachable face.
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Yeah, idk how I feel about Tein, I know incidents of the sort are few and far between, but it's a little disconcerting...

Are those the old style lowers?

Also, by the looks of the brake ducting, and all the dirt, I'm going to guess those have seen a bit more abuse than your average driver puts on a car. Track your modified car long enough, and eventually you get to experience a failure like that.





In my case, I had the actual factory control arm fail. I'm not surprised there are pictures of track cars w/ exploded Teins floating about. But without knowing the story behind the picture, I wouldn't consider it a reason not to buy Tein.
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