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|  2007-10-16, 12:22 AM | #1 | 
| EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2004 
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				 Car: 2004 wrx |  What spark plugs are everyone using? 
			
			More specifically STI drivers.  It seems that my plugs are fouled after less than 10k of driving.  I think my idle is rich so that is a problem.  Anyway i ordered a set of Denso Iridium plugs (IKH22).  Im just wondering what everyone else is using.  thanks for the input. ryan | 
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|  2007-10-16, 06:31 AM | #2 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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				 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through |   
			
			As far as I know, there is one and only one choice for colder STi plugs: NGK LFR-7AIX.  And when I say "one and only one" I don't mean that 'cause they're great plugs, I say that because they're the *only* one step colder plugs for the STi, period. Personally, I'd rather run a set of $4 copper plugs and change 'em frequently, but they just don't make 'em for the STi heads. 
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|  2007-10-16, 07:11 AM | #3 | |
| Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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				 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me. |   Quote: 
 I think there are other options out there, but nobody who tunes these cars will touch anything else. And I am very happy not having to go to the trouble of checking/changing them often. 
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|  2007-10-16, 08:28 AM | #5 | 
| Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno 
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				 Car: 05 STi |   
			
			Still on the stock plugs here
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|  2007-10-16, 08:52 AM | #6 | 
| Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication 
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			One step colder Denso Irridiums on my WRX.
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 11:51 AM | #7 | 
| Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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				 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me. |   
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|  2007-10-16, 12:01 PM | #8 | 
| Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno 
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				 Car: 05 STi |   
			
			Really? You don't believe me???     | 
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|  2007-10-16, 12:07 PM | #9 | 
| Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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			I believe you, just surprised between all your stages, nobody ever suggested or swapped plugs on you. Especially whoever did your green upgrade.
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 12:14 PM | #10 | 
| Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno 
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|  2007-10-16, 12:26 PM | #11 | 
| Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication 
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			WTF M8?
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 01:10 PM | #12 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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			Colder plugs don't make a difference in power or anything.  If it's not pinging, it's not pinging... no need to pull heat out of the chamber if you aren't having an issue.
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 01:18 PM | #13 | 
| EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno 
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			Plus colder plugs foul easier, so on a street car they are not really a help.
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 01:59 PM | #14 | 
| Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication 
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			Colder plugs can allow your tuner to milk a couple more ponies out of the tune though.  They do foul if you drive like a Granny all the time though.  A good full throttle pull every once in a while cleans 'em off though.   They're generally recommended for anything stage2 or higher, assuming a custom tune. 
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|  2007-10-16, 02:42 PM | #15 | 
| Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno 
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			I mainly use my car to get milk and bread from the quick-e-mart so I should stick to stock plugs
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|  2007-10-16, 03:00 PM | #16 | |
| Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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|  2007-10-16, 03:15 PM | #17 | 
| Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno 
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				 Car: 05 STi |   
			
			I'm glad I don't have colder plugs, or I would have beaten you by 0.002 instead of 0.001 at event 5. I hate putting unnecessary wear and tear on the car!
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|  2007-10-16, 03:54 PM | #18 | 
| El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV 
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			I'm on Stock plugs ftmfw!
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 04:01 PM | #19 | 
| Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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				 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me. |   
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|  2007-10-16, 04:18 PM | #20 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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			It's better than being on colder plugs that are sitting in a bucket 'cause the motor's in pieces.    
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|  2007-10-16, 05:39 PM | #21 | 
| Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box 
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				 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F* your car |   
			
			HEY!  There's nothing wrong with third place!
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 05:49 PM | #22 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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			It all depends on who's 1st and 2nd... if it's two national champs like in Matt's case, you're right.  But when it's just Dean and Mike... pshht... you should be ashamed!   
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|  2007-10-16, 05:51 PM | #23 | |
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				 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F* your car |   Quote: 
   
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|  2007-10-16, 06:11 PM | #24 | 
| Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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			SNAP!
		 
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|  2007-10-16, 06:25 PM | #25 | |
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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				 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through |   Quote: 
   Plus, anytime you're within a second of cars with 100+ hp on you, *they* should be embarrassed. 
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