AP V2 question - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Dean · 2009-02-20, 12:41 PM

Anybody with a V2 AP.

What changes on the AP so you can tell it is installed on uninstalled, and can you tell when not plugged into a car?

I am looking at a used V2 AP and want to be able to make sure it has been uninstalled/unmarried without a car since my car is out of commission.

MikeK · 2009-02-20, 03:36 PM

I had the same question when I sold my version 1 AP. I called cobb, they told me straight away. Give them a call or send them an email.

Dean · 2009-02-20, 03:41 PM

Posted something on their forums already. Just thought I might get a faster response here. So far, no answer.

V1 goes into must marry to ECU mode and won't display any other options on power up. I know that, so figure something similar might happen to V2, but "installation" video shows what appears to be a "normal" menu...

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-02-20, 04:22 PM

I would guess that if it was married to another car that it wouldn't let you install it on your car.

MattR · 2009-02-20, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

What changes on the AP so you can tell it is installed on uninstalled, and can you tell when not plugged into a car?

Well, When I switch a map, I generally double check by going to the current map config screen or something and it says what map is currently active by name. This is when it's plugged into the car. I haven't played with it in so long that I can't remember but I can check later.

Dean · 2009-02-20, 04:44 PM

Again, the objective would be to be able to tell without plugging into a car...

cody · 2009-02-20, 04:59 PM

Have you tried plugging it into the car?

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-02-20, 05:02 PM

Plug it into someone else's car. You should have though about that before the meet last night.

Dean · 2009-02-20, 05:09 PM

OMG... I am looking at buying a used one, though it may be gone, and neither the seller, nor I have a working Subaru...

cody · 2009-02-20, 05:10 PM

Sorry Dean.

Dean · 2009-02-20, 06:47 PM

Well, doesn't matter... It's gone... If somebody got a V2 AP for an STI for $300 from a guy named Riley in Sparks, I hate you!

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-02-20, 06:56 PM

That's dirt ass cheap!

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-02-20, 06:57 PM

Even if it were married you could have sent it in to COBB and still saved money!

Kevin M · 2009-02-20, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

OMG... I am looking at buying a used one, though it may be gone, and neither the seller, nor I have a working Subaru...

Wait, the guy was local and you didn't just drive over and plug it in..

oh wait. Nevermind.

cody · 2009-02-23, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Even if it were married you could have sent it in to COBB and still saved money!

How does that work? They just charge you a fee to unmarry it? How much?

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-02-23, 11:30 AM

I can't remember the exact price but it has come up several times on nasioc when someone totals out their car and is selling their married AP.

sperry · 2009-02-23, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

How does that work? They just charge you a fee to unmarry it? How much?

I think they charge like 2/3 the price of a new one, because essentially, if someone's already tuned a car then sells the AP still married, the next owner is getting a reflash while the previous owner never gave theirs up.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-02-23, 12:07 PM

Yeah but, I think the first person in your scenario would then be screwed because now his ecu is locked and that map will always be on there.

sperry · 2009-02-23, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Yeah but, I think the first person in your scenario would then be screwed because now his ecu is locked and that map will always be on there.

Screwed how? Screwed by having a custom reflash on his car that makes it go faster?

He's only screwed if he wants to add/remove mods and it needs retuning. If he's "done" with modding the car then selling the married AP gets him a couple hundred bucks in his pocket w/o giving up his tune.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-02-23, 12:17 PM

^If someone was going to do that wouldn't it be cheaper to just get tuned with open source if he doesn't plan on ever switching maps?

2009-02-20, 12:41 PM	#1
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	AP V2 question Anybody with a V2 AP. What changes on the AP so you can tell it is installed on uninstalled, and can you tell when not plugged into a car? I am looking at a used V2 AP and want to be able to make sure it has been uninstalled/unmarried without a car since my car is out of commission. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-02-20, 03:41 PM	#3
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Posted something on their forums already. Just thought I might get a faster response here. So far, no answer. V1 goes into must marry to ECU mode and won't display any other options on power up. I know that, so figure something similar might happen to V2, but "installation" video shows what appears to be a "normal" menu... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-02-20, 04:22 PM	#4
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I would guess that if it was married to another car that it wouldn't let you install it on your car. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-02-20, 04:44 PM	#6
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Again, the objective would be to be able to tell without plugging into a car... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-02-20, 04:59 PM	#7
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Have you tried plugging it into the car? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-02-20, 03:36 PM	#2
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	I had the same question when I sold my version 1 AP. I called cobb, they told me straight away. Give them a call or send them an email.

2009-02-20, 05:02 PM	#8
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Plug it into someone else's car. You should have though about that before the meet last night. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-02-20, 05:09 PM	#9
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	OMG... I am looking at buying a used one, though it may be gone, and neither the seller, nor I have a working Subaru... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-02-20, 05:10 PM	#10
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Sorry Dean. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-02-20, 06:47 PM	#11
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Well, doesn't matter... It's gone... If somebody got a V2 AP for an STI for $300 from a guy named Riley in Sparks, I hate you! __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-02-20, 06:56 PM	#12
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	That's dirt ass cheap! __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-02-20, 06:57 PM	#13
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Even if it were married you could have sent it in to COBB and still saved money! __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-02-23, 11:30 AM	#16
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I can't remember the exact price but it has come up several times on nasioc when someone totals out their car and is selling their married AP. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-02-23, 12:07 PM	#18
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Yeah but, I think the first person in your scenario would then be screwed because now his ecu is locked and that map will always be on there. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-02-23, 12:17 PM	#20
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	^If someone was going to do that wouldn't it be cheaper to just get tuned with open source if he doesn't plan on ever switching maps? __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

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