Seat Removal - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Ezdno · 2006-09-19, 07:45 PM

So before I dive in to the removal of the front seat to replace or repair the slide rail. Is there anyone who has done it, will I need to do anything about the airbags?

MPREZIV · 2006-09-19, 07:48 PM

do you even have airbags in the side of the seat? I don't think so dude... just unbolt the 4 seat bolts, and pull that bitch out!

Ezdno · 2006-09-19, 07:52 PM

Well since I am unsure of the lil label that says, srs on the seat and I dont have a cool lil cd manual, that was my first plan. but I would rather be sure. Anyone have a cool lil cd manual?

tysonK · 2006-09-19, 07:54 PM

There is a plug that is yellow under the seat clearly visible that you have to unlock. Then take out the 4 mounting bolts and the seat is out.

MPREZIV · 2006-09-19, 08:21 PM

I stand corrected!! If that label is on there, Tyson is right. You'll have to disconnect a yellow colored airbag harness connector on the bottom of the seat. Best to disconnect the battery first tho. You don't want to plug that connector back in with the batt still hooked up. Possible airbag module/controller failure... they say they can go BOOM, but I've never seen one. Still, why chance it

Ezdno · 2006-09-19, 08:31 PM

See, now this is why I ask the people that know....I have a severe allergy to "boom"

Bob Danger · 2006-09-19, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Possible airbag module/controller failure... they say they can go BOOM, but I've never seen one.

Righteous

sybir · 2006-09-19, 10:07 PM

Good luck pulling the airbag connectore withthe seat still bolted down. It's got a failsafe that makes it a PITA to detach when you can clearly see it, let alone buried under the seat.

There's a green tab that has to slide forward, then a tab in back that actually has to come up in order to detach the bag connector. Sometimes it takes 2 seconds, sometimes you cusre at the thing for 20 minutes.

Good luck

cody · 2006-09-19, 10:48 PM

Yah, that connector sucks! Also, it's easy to scratch your interior with the mounting flanges. Take it out carefully.

Dean · 2006-09-20, 03:24 AM

I'd unbolt the seat first so you can tilt it and have better access to the connector.

Also, make sure the car is off, key out of the ignition. I don't recall if the shop manual suggests removing the positive battery lead or not. You might check the shop manual anyway as it probably says how to do it...

It would also tell you how to tighten your rear wing.

MPREZIV · 2006-09-20, 06:32 AM

^^ standard operating procedure for airbag removal is to disconnect the batt on ALL cars. This is what they teach at least!

Kevin M · 2006-09-20, 07:14 AM

Yeah, but isn't there a capacitor backup for the airbag system anyway?

doubleurx · 2006-09-20, 08:24 AM

Definately unbolt the seat first. Sybir is correct about that plug. It is a major PIA to undo, even with the seat unbolted.

JC · 2006-09-20, 05:37 PM

Just cut it, unplugging is for pussies. Who needs airbags anyway?

Ezdno · 2006-09-20, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

Just cut it, unplugging is for pussies. Who needs airbags anyway?

If it was just me, I could see this...but since its a grocery getter with several kids attached I better find the plug.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEAN

It would also tell you how to tighten your rear wing

Yea Yea!

Still no word on a cd manual yet?

cody · 2006-09-20, 09:25 PM

http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/impreza_manuals.htm

http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/STi_Manua...%20Spoiler.pdf

Ezdno · 2006-09-20, 09:31 PM

hahaha thanks Cody

cody · 2006-09-20, 09:32 PM

MPREZIV · 2006-09-21, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Yeah, but isn't there a capacitor backup for the airbag system anyway?

There is, but the way it works is that it only holds a charge for a limited amount of time, and then automatically discharges. If it were a permanent charge, there would *never* be a "safe" time to work on an SRS system, as it would always be active!!

The capacitor backup is simply in case you get into an accident that doesn't set off the airbags, but DOES disconnect/destroy the battery, and then you get hit AGAIN in the same incident; the airbags will still work if needed. This system only holds charge for a minute or two in an average car tho, so you can actually perform work on the SRS if need be.

khail19 · 2006-09-21, 12:41 PM

Which is why you should step on the brake pedal a few times after disconnecting the battery, make sure all the electricity is out of the system. I've taken my steering wheel off a few times and never had a problem with the airbag, but I always disconnect the battery first.

sperry · 2006-09-21, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by khail19

Which is why you should step on the brake pedal a few times after disconnecting the battery, make sure all the electricity is out of the system. I've taken my steering wheel off a few times and never had a problem with the airbag, but I always disconnect the battery first.

If the SRS capasitor was wired such that stepping on the brake pedal w/ a disconnected battery discharged the cap, it would be a terribly designed system. I'd suggest doing what Cory does... disconnect the ground on the battery and wait 20 minutes.

khail19 · 2006-09-21, 12:51 PM

Yeah I do that, then step on the brake pedal for good measure. I know it probably doesn't do anything, but I read it somewhere a long time ago and have been doing it ever since.

sperry · 2006-09-21, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khail19

Yeah I do that, then step on the brake pedal for good measure. I know it probably doesn't do anything, but I read it somewhere a long time ago and have been doing it ever since.

I think the brake pedal trick is good for ensuring the ECU resets.

tysonK · 2006-09-21, 02:28 PM

Um, when I took my seats out I just took them out. I did no battery disconnecting. I guess I should have. Better safe then fucked.

I remember that fateful night, before the norpac convention, I know scott and matt do also.

MPREZIV · 2006-09-21, 02:57 PM

Yeah, you could probably yank them out and plug them back in a *million* times and NEVER have anything bad happen, but the fact that there's a POSSIBILITY of deployment frankly scares the shit out of me...

BOOM = unhappy Black Cory...

2006-09-19, 07:45 PM	#1
Ezdno EJ251 Real Name: Dean W. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: So close to hell you can see Sparks! Posts: 541 Car: 1992 F250 1T Monster Class: none They were all dead when I got here!	Seat Removal So before I dive in to the removal of the front seat to replace or repair the slide rail. Is there anyone who has done it, will I need to do anything about the airbags? __________________ Don't interupt me while I am ignoring you!

2006-09-19, 07:48 PM	#2
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	do you even have airbags in the side of the seat? I don't think so dude... just unbolt the 4 seat bolts, and pull that bitch out! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-09-19, 07:52 PM	#3
Ezdno EJ251 Real Name: Dean W. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: So close to hell you can see Sparks! Posts: 541 Car: 1992 F250 1T Monster Class: none They were all dead when I got here!	Well since I am unsure of the lil label that says, srs on the seat and I dont have a cool lil cd manual, that was my first plan. but I would rather be sure. Anyone have a cool lil cd manual? __________________ Don't interupt me while I am ignoring you!

2006-09-19, 07:54 PM	#4
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	There is a plug that is yellow under the seat clearly visible that you have to unlock. Then take out the 4 mounting bolts and the seat is out. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2006-09-19, 08:21 PM	#5
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	I stand corrected!! If that label is on there, Tyson is right. You'll have to disconnect a yellow colored airbag harness connector on the bottom of the seat. Best to disconnect the battery first tho. You don't want to plug that connector back in with the batt still hooked up. Possible airbag module/controller failure... they say they can go BOOM, but I've never seen one. Still, why chance it __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-09-19, 08:31 PM	#6
Ezdno EJ251 Real Name: Dean W. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: So close to hell you can see Sparks! Posts: 541 Car: 1992 F250 1T Monster Class: none They were all dead when I got here!	See, now this is why I ask the people that know....I have a severe allergy to "boom" __________________ Don't interupt me while I am ignoring you!

2006-09-19, 10:07 PM	#8
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Good luck pulling the airbag connectore withthe seat still bolted down. It's got a failsafe that makes it a PITA to detach when you can clearly see it, let alone buried under the seat. There's a green tab that has to slide forward, then a tab in back that actually has to come up in order to detach the bag connector. Sometimes it takes 2 seconds, sometimes you cusre at the thing for 20 minutes. Good luck __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2006-09-19, 10:48 PM	#9
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Yah, that connector sucks! Also, it's easy to scratch your interior with the mounting flanges. Take it out carefully. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-09-20, 03:24 AM	#10
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I'd unbolt the seat first so you can tilt it and have better access to the connector. Also, make sure the car is off, key out of the ignition. I don't recall if the shop manual suggests removing the positive battery lead or not. You might check the shop manual anyway as it probably says how to do it... It would also tell you how to tighten your rear wing. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-09-20, 06:32 AM	#11
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	^^ standard operating procedure for airbag removal is to disconnect the batt on ALL cars. This is what they teach at least! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-09-20, 07:14 AM	#12
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Yeah, but isn't there a capacitor backup for the airbag system anyway? __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-09-20, 08:24 AM	#13
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	Definately unbolt the seat first. Sybir is correct about that plug. It is a major PIA to undo, even with the seat unbolted. __________________ Does it have a motor..............Does it have a motor?

2006-09-20, 05:37 PM	#14
JC Ask me about dubs! Real Name: JC Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 2,895 Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R	Just cut it, unplugging is for pussies. Who needs airbags anyway? __________________ Actually, I am a rocket scientist.

2006-09-20, 09:25 PM	#16
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/impreza_manuals.htm http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/STi_Manua...%20Spoiler.pdf

2006-09-20, 09:31 PM	#17
Ezdno EJ251 Real Name: Dean W. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: So close to hell you can see Sparks! Posts: 541 Car: 1992 F250 1T Monster Class: none They were all dead when I got here!	hahaha thanks Cody __________________ Don't interupt me while I am ignoring you!

2006-09-20, 09:32 PM	#18
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!

2006-09-21, 12:41 PM	#20
khail19 EJ205 Real Name: Khail Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,769 Car: 2016 VW GTI Meets? We have meets?	Which is why you should step on the brake pedal a few times after disconnecting the battery, make sure all the electricity is out of the system. I've taken my steering wheel off a few times and never had a problem with the airbag, but I always disconnect the battery first.

2006-09-21, 12:51 PM	#22
khail19 EJ205 Real Name: Khail Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,769 Car: 2016 VW GTI Meets? We have meets?	Yeah I do that, then step on the brake pedal for good measure. I know it probably doesn't do anything, but I read it somewhere a long time ago and have been doing it ever since.

2006-09-21, 02:28 PM	#24
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	Um, when I took my seats out I just took them out. I did no battery disconnecting. I guess I should have. Better safe then fucked. I remember that fateful night, before the norpac convention, I know scott and matt do also. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2006-09-21, 02:57 PM	#25
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Yeah, you could probably yank them out and plug them back in a million times and NEVER have anything bad happen, but the fact that there's a POSSIBILITY of deployment frankly scares the shit out of me... BOOM = unhappy Black Cory... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

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