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A1337STI · 2006-03-17, 09:50 AM

I was googling for rally schools around here and came across this !
its only $110 and you get 1.5 days of classes and a Mini Rally !! its an SCCA event (probably can tell form the url)
http://www.sfrscca.org/RallyX/?rallyschool2006

As usual my understanding of the event is that cars will go around some cones. I'm guessing if i'm going to enter at least 2 scca events i should just go ahead and join the scca .

Anyways i'm wondering who else might be interested. And / Or if there are other rally type schools/ events that may be a bit closer ? seems like you are driving on a dirt road in a big grass field so minimal paint danger from some stray pebbels in the dirt will be the big concern, and hitting cones.

(if i didn't snowboard i'de be going crazy waiting for these motor events!)

they have classes for Navigators, and pit crew also. i've already got a friend of mine who is gonna take the navigator classes and nav man for me

also 2 drivers can share 1 car (way more info on that url)

Kevin M · 2006-03-17, 10:35 AM

If June 10/11 is open for me, and I can convince them that hardtop+rollbar=fixed roof, I'd be down.

A1337STI · 2006-03-17, 10:43 AM

"Vehicles with bolted-on hardtops and fixed roll bars may be granted special allowance by the Safety Steward. "

Sounds like yes that is Allowed. but maybe ask specifically about your setup
Rally School Contact: Michel Hoche-Mong :rally@grok.com

cody · 2006-03-17, 11:06 AM

I don't even have apropriate tires, but I'd love to go. Sounds awesome.

A1337STI · 2006-03-17, 11:15 AM

Thought you had something with an M+S rating ? you mean out of the 3 or 4 sets of tires not one is at least an all season ? lol , go buy more tires !

cody · 2006-03-17, 11:20 AM

I'd run my Toyo Proxes 4's. They're M+S rated and they work okay in the snow. I'm sure they'd be fine, but they're wide and the tread pattern doesn't look anything like an offroad tire.

A1337STI · 2006-03-17, 12:24 PM

Wider is better for Dirt and Mud. as you want to Float more in mud / sand / soft dirt.
skinny for snow so you Sink down and hopefuly make some contact with the tarmac under there. (also riding skinny tires through deep snow really keeps you going straight) At least i have it in my lil head that this is ideal. if someone knows better, correct me
Sick photo btw

M3n2c3 · 2006-03-17, 12:42 PM

I'd love to go, but I don't think it'll be possible for me to make it.

Kevin M · 2006-03-17, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

I don't even have apropriate tires, but I'd love to go. Sounds awesome.

Cheapo snows on cheapo wheels would probably come in under $400 through TR.

Kevin M · 2006-03-17, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1337STI

"Vehicles with bolted-on hardtops and fixed roll bars may be granted special allowance by the Safety Steward. "

Sounds like yes that is Allowed. but maybe ask specifically about your setup
Rally School Contact: Michel Hoche-Mong :rally@grok.com

That rules, I can rally-x my Miata! Unfortunately, there's a Club Trials event that weekend.

A1337STI · 2006-03-17, 12:57 PM

aaah, gotta go with your passion then

sybir · 2006-03-17, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

If June 10/11 is open for me, and I can convince them that hardtop+rollbar=fixed roof, I'd be down.

I bought a set of steelies off Hoche a while back, he's one of those weird OB drivers.

In all seriousness, he's a good guy, and will probably let the Miata play if you let him know you're ex-scooby and you know what to expect on a rallyx course.

cody · 2006-03-17, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Cheapo snows on cheapo wheels would probably come in under $400 through TR.

WILL THE MADNESS NEVER END?!!!

Kevin M · 2006-03-17, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sybir

I bought a set of steelies off Hoche a while back, he's one of those weird OB drivers.

In all seriousness, he's a good guy, and will probably let the Miata play if you let him know you're ex-scooby and you know what to expect on a rallyx course.

Yeah, getting in would probably be no problem, but there's a Club Trials event conflicting.

Kevin M · 2006-03-17, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

WILL THE MADNESS NEVER END?!!!

Hey, the better option would be to get good snow tires on cheapo wheels and have primo tires for next snow season.

Actually, don't you already have a set of snows? If so they would be fine for rally-x.

cody · 2006-03-17, 04:23 PM

Nope, no snows, just the Proxes 4's which wear like iron. I'm planning to replace them with snows since they're on the OEM wheels. I would have got real winter tires, but I lived in Santa Rosa at the time. Oh well, they work fine in the snow and should be ok in the mud I guess.

A1337STI · 2006-03-17, 06:26 PM

will i want to run with really really high psi (40-38 ish?), since i'm on 17's 225/45/R17
or do you always run a very high psi on an autox / rallyx type event to reduce tire roll under and just deal with the bounciness ?

Dean · 2006-03-17, 06:42 PM

Typicly low traction situations call for lower, not higher pressures. The objective is to get the tire to sculpt to the terain. I think Baja 1000 trucks and such run pressures in the teens with special bead lockers to keep the tires from coming off the rims.

Kevin M · 2006-03-17, 06:42 PM

You're not planning on running at rallycross on RE070s are you? That would kinda suck.

But for autocross, yeah, 38-40 psi is close to what most of the others using those run them at.

A1337STI · 2006-03-18, 02:47 AM

No i'll put my Dunlap M3s back on for the rally. i'm really gonna need 2 sets of rims come april

2006-03-17, 09:50 AM	#1
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	New to RallyCross I was googling for rally schools around here and came across this ! its only $110 and you get 1.5 days of classes and a Mini Rally !! its an SCCA event (probably can tell form the url) http://www.sfrscca.org/RallyX/?rallyschool2006 As usual my understanding of the event is that cars will go around some cones. I'm guessing if i'm going to enter at least 2 scca events i should just go ahead and join the scca . Anyways i'm wondering who else might be interested. And / Or if there are other rally type schools/ events that may be a bit closer ? seems like you are driving on a dirt road in a big grass field so minimal paint danger from some stray pebbels in the dirt will be the big concern, and hitting cones. (if i didn't snowboard i'de be going crazy waiting for these motor events!) they have classes for Navigators, and pit crew also. i've already got a friend of mine who is gonna take the navigator classes and nav man for me also 2 drivers can share 1 car (way more info on that url) __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-03-17, 10:35 AM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	If June 10/11 is open for me, and I can convince them that hardtop+rollbar=fixed roof, I'd be down. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-03-17, 10:43 AM	#3
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	"Vehicles with bolted-on hardtops and fixed roll bars may be granted special allowance by the Safety Steward. " Sounds like yes that is Allowed. but maybe ask specifically about your setup Rally School Contact: Michel Hoche-Mong :rally@grok.com __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-03-17, 11:15 AM	#5
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	Thought you had something with an M+S rating ? you mean out of the 3 or 4 sets of tires not one is at least an all season ? lol , go buy more tires ! __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-03-17, 12:24 PM	#7
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	Wider is better for Dirt and Mud. as you want to Float more in mud / sand / soft dirt. skinny for snow so you Sink down and hopefuly make some contact with the tarmac under there. (also riding skinny tires through deep snow really keeps you going straight) At least i have it in my lil head that this is ideal. if someone knows better, correct me Sick photo btw __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-03-17, 11:06 AM	#4
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I don't even have apropriate tires, but I'd love to go. Sounds awesome.

2006-03-17, 11:20 AM	#6
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I'd run my Toyo Proxes 4's. They're M+S rated and they work okay in the snow. I'm sure they'd be fine, but they're wide and the tread pattern doesn't look anything like an offroad tire.

2006-03-17, 12:42 PM	#8
M3n2c3 EJ205 Real Name: Jeremiah Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 1,888 Car: 2005 Impreza 2.5RS, 2000 Forester L Class: RNP sometimes (see motto) "Kids are ruining autocross."	I'd love to go, but I don't think it'll be possible for me to make it. __________________ Small red text that looks curious at first glance but is ultimately inconsequential

2006-03-17, 12:57 PM	#11
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	aaah, gotta go with your passion then __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-03-17, 04:23 PM	#16
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Nope, no snows, just the Proxes 4's which wear like iron. I'm planning to replace them with snows since they're on the OEM wheels. I would have got real winter tires, but I lived in Santa Rosa at the time. Oh well, they work fine in the snow and should be ok in the mud I guess.

2006-03-17, 06:26 PM	#17
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	will i want to run with really really high psi (40-38 ish?), since i'm on 17's 225/45/R17 or do you always run a very high psi on an autox / rallyx type event to reduce tire roll under and just deal with the bounciness ? __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-03-17, 06:42 PM	#18
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Typicly low traction situations call for lower, not higher pressures. The objective is to get the tire to sculpt to the terain. I think Baja 1000 trucks and such run pressures in the teens with special bead lockers to keep the tires from coming off the rims. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2006-03-17 at 06:46 PM.

2006-03-18, 02:47 AM	#20
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	No i'll put my Dunlap M3s back on for the rally. i'm really gonna need 2 sets of rims come april __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

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