Shifter bushings... Which ones? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Dean · 2007-04-18, 09:17 AM

Nasioc has a pretty good picture of the linkage:

from this thread.

My question to those of you have swapped any, which ones, and what do you think of the results?

I picked up a set of urethane "D" bushings and before I put them in was trying to decide if I should do any of the others.

Kevin M · 2007-04-18, 09:31 AM

You definitely want to do E as well, and I have heard good things about A and C but never used them myself.

cody · 2007-04-18, 09:52 AM

I only did D because Kartboy had a package deal that included it. I'll probably do E someday if I find it cheap.

MikeK · 2007-04-18, 04:22 PM

I had this kit installed a few weeks ago, and the difference is unbelievable. It looks like it has everything on your diagram except the short shifter

sperry · 2007-04-18, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

I had this kit installed a few weeks ago, and the difference is unbelievable. It looks like it has everything on your diagram except the short shifter

I believe those are all the bushings that came with my kit, plus I got the kartboy short shifter. It's the difference between rowing a boat and twisting your wrist on a jet-ski.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-04-18, 06:42 PM

I think as a whole the difference will be great. As far as each individually I dont think you will really tell a difference. Speaking from doing my bushings+ss I installed the shifter and then drove it, then I installed "D" bushings in your diagram and I didnt really feel a difference. I have heard that bushings "E" and "C" make the most difference. I would have purchased bushing "E" but due to there being false advertising on gruppe-s I got a set of crossmember bushings instead.

doubleurx · 2007-04-22, 12:20 PM

Dean I also have the same kit installed. It was an amazing difference.

Dean · 2007-04-22, 01:39 PM

WOW!!! The difference is amazing. I had to loosen the pivot bushing bolt a bit to make the fore-aft movement easier, and don't ask what I did about the wrong front stay bushings

I hope this fixes the 3rd vs. 5th down shift issue I occasionally have. At least I can't blame it on the sloppy shifter any more.

Kevin M · 2007-04-22, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

I hope this fixes the 3rd vs. 5th down shift issue I occasionally have. At least I can't blame it on the sloppy shifter any more.

Well a shifter is certainly less expensive than a new shortblock when you accidentally spin it to 9k.

What did you do about the pivots, praytell? Urethane?

Dean · 2007-04-22, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Well a shifter is certainly less expensive than a new shortblock when you accidentally spin it to 9k.

What did you do about the pivots, praytell? Urethane?

Not sure of the exact material, they are all TIC bushings previously linked except the front stays. Those are now Deanified(TM) Prothane 5MT urethane bushings.

I threw in the TIC rear Diff mount and transmission crossmember bushings while I was at it since I already had the group N tranny mount and Whiteline outrigger bushings.

Only a few more suspension bushings to do at some point.

Kevin M · 2007-04-22, 05:16 PM

I was thinking of the window pane urethane that comes in a tube. I wouldn't put it past you.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-04-23, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean

I had to loosen the pivot bushing bolt a bit to make the fore-aft movement easier.

How could you tell that you had it on there too tight? I might have mine too tight as well.

sperry · 2007-04-23, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

How could you tell that you had it on there too tight? I might have mine too tight as well.

*head asplode*

Nick Koan · 2007-04-23, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

How could you tell that you had it on there too tight? I might have mine too tight as well.

Its all a matter of feel. If it feels to tight for you loosen it up a little. If its too loose, tighten it up.

sperry · 2007-04-23, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

Its all a matter of feel. If it feels to tight for you loosen it up a little. If its too loose, tighten it up.

Just like women!

Dean · 2007-04-23, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

How could you tell that you had it on there too tight? I might have mine too tight as well.

Ignoring the other comments... The pivot bushing for the most part controls fore-aft shifter resistance. if that feels to stiff, loosen that bolt a 1/8-1/4 turn or until it feels better. This is the one that is up in the car on the shifter itself, so it is an easy 2 minute job.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-04-23, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

Its all a matter of feel. If it feels to tight for you loosen it up a little. If its too loose, tighten it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Just like women!

meaning you have yet to find a tight one?

Nick Koan · 2007-04-23, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

meaning you have yet to find a tight one?

I think what Scott is trying to say is that your shifter needs to do some kegel exercises.

cody · 2007-04-23, 10:55 PM

You're a kegel exercise.

sperry · 2007-04-23, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

You're a kegel exercise.

Yer a towel.

Dean · 2007-04-24, 06:44 AM

So much for this being a tech forum...

cody · 2007-04-24, 07:39 AM

You're a tech forum.

*runs*

eggeegg · 2007-05-14, 09:42 PM

sometimes when i shift from 1st to 2nd, i feel a slight buzz on the shifter during the middle of the shift. does this have to do with bushings? stock everything trannywise. just during 1-2 shift.

Dean · 2007-05-15, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eggeegg

sometimes when i shift from 1st to 2nd, i feel a slight buzz on the shifter during the middle of the shift. does this have to do with bushings? stock everything trannywise. just during 1-2 shift.

Probably just a vibration as the linkage goes through the forks. Are you pulling straight down or pulling left at the same time?

eggeegg · 2007-05-15, 07:12 AM

ya it happens when i pull left a little. normal then, eh.

2007-04-18, 09:17 AM	#1
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Shifter bushings... Which ones? Nasioc has a pretty good picture of the linkage: from this thread. My question to those of you have swapped any, which ones, and what do you think of the results? I picked up a set of urethane "D" bushings and before I put them in was trying to decide if I should do any of the others. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-04-18, 09:31 AM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	You definitely want to do E as well, and I have heard good things about A and C but never used them myself. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-04-18, 09:52 AM	#3
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I only did D because Kartboy had a package deal that included it. I'll probably do E someday if I find it cheap. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-04-18, 06:42 PM	#6
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I think as a whole the difference will be great. As far as each individually I dont think you will really tell a difference. Speaking from doing my bushings+ss I installed the shifter and then drove it, then I installed "D" bushings in your diagram and I didnt really feel a difference. I have heard that bushings "E" and "C" make the most difference. I would have purchased bushing "E" but due to there being false advertising on gruppe-s I got a set of crossmember bushings instead. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-04-22, 12:20 PM	#7
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	Dean I also have the same kit installed. It was an amazing difference. __________________ Does it have a motor..............Does it have a motor?

2007-04-18, 04:22 PM	#4
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	I had this kit installed a few weeks ago, and the difference is unbelievable. It looks like it has everything on your diagram except the short shifter

2007-04-22, 01:39 PM	#8
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	WOW!!! The difference is amazing. I had to loosen the pivot bushing bolt a bit to make the fore-aft movement easier, and don't ask what I did about the wrong front stay bushings I hope this fixes the 3rd vs. 5th down shift issue I occasionally have. At least I can't blame it on the sloppy shifter any more. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-04-22, 05:16 PM	#11
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I was thinking of the window pane urethane that comes in a tube. I wouldn't put it past you. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-04-23, 10:55 PM	#19
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	You're a kegel exercise. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-04-24, 06:44 AM	#21
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	So much for this being a tech forum... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-04-24, 07:39 AM	#22
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	You're a tech forum. runs __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-05-14, 09:42 PM	#23
eggeegg EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 137 Car: 2006 Subaru WRX Sedan Trying is the first step towards failure.	sometimes when i shift from 1st to 2nd, i feel a slight buzz on the shifter during the middle of the shift. does this have to do with bushings? stock everything trannywise. just during 1-2 shift. __________________ Stage 2 (XPT); Cobb DP; SPT intake, heatshield, CBE, radiator shroud, turbo shield; STI pink springs;Whiteline 20-24mm RSB; Kartboy End Links; rally pig sticker; 5zigen FN01R-C 17x8 w/ 225/45/17 RE960 AS PP; Hella twin supertones

2007-05-15, 07:12 AM	#25
eggeegg EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 137 Car: 2006 Subaru WRX Sedan Trying is the first step towards failure.	ya it happens when i pull left a little. normal then, eh. __________________ Stage 2 (XPT); Cobb DP; SPT intake, heatshield, CBE, radiator shroud, turbo shield; STI pink springs;Whiteline 20-24mm RSB; Kartboy End Links; rally pig sticker; 5zigen FN01R-C 17x8 w/ 225/45/17 RE960 AS PP; Hella twin supertones

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